1 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:09,060 oh here we are in sunny avec le in again 2 00:00:14,220 --> 00:00:11,650 in North Wales to speak to veteran 3 00:00:14,730 --> 00:00:14,230 researcher Margaret fright hello 4 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:14,740 Margaret 5 00:00:20,220 --> 00:00:18,010 hello very my sweet this is I'm very 6 00:00:23,460 --> 00:00:20,230 pleased to meet all of you I don't often 7 00:00:25,979 --> 00:00:23,470 get the chance to talk about you at 8 00:00:28,050 --> 00:00:25,989 first oh okay all right 9 00:00:31,229 --> 00:00:28,060 it's an honor to meet you because in my 10 00:00:34,370 --> 00:00:31,239 mind you know well the the main veteran 11 00:00:36,450 --> 00:00:34,380 UFO researchers in Britain today and 12 00:00:41,220 --> 00:00:36,460 your lifetimes work needs to be 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:41,230 recognized I think with sue for me we 14 00:00:45,060 --> 00:00:43,570 tend to our work we're concentrating on 15 00:00:48,090 --> 00:00:45,070 Welsh cases because we build in a 16 00:00:51,419 --> 00:00:48,100 database of all the happenings in Wales 17 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:51,429 over the years and you said you were 18 00:00:56,340 --> 00:00:52,570 telling me earlier that you moved to 19 00:00:58,259 --> 00:00:56,350 North Wales in 1983 mm-hmm and you said 20 00:01:01,169 --> 00:00:58,269 you you've researched a lot of cases in 21 00:01:03,649 --> 00:01:01,179 Wales didn't do any cases stand up in 22 00:01:07,530 --> 00:01:03,659 your mind that you can remember I 23 00:01:10,620 --> 00:01:07,540 remember one particularly because it 24 00:01:13,740 --> 00:01:10,630 seems so ridiculous it could could 25 00:01:20,730 --> 00:01:13,750 hardly be true but I forgot me to a 26 00:01:28,860 --> 00:01:20,740 summer outside might have been deadly 27 00:01:31,770 --> 00:01:28,870 and they they all started ringing me 28 00:01:33,690 --> 00:01:31,780 from this irrespective of each other you 29 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:33,700 know they may not have known each other 30 00:01:41,220 --> 00:01:36,490 but they said they'd seen what looked 31 00:01:45,390 --> 00:01:41,230 like a telephone box and it had been 32 00:01:48,330 --> 00:01:45,400 jumping from one rooftop to another and 33 00:01:52,650 --> 00:01:48,340 in the states where they lived it and 34 00:01:56,700 --> 00:01:52,660 then be so of course I went down as 35 00:01:59,340 --> 00:01:56,710 first you know straight off I forget 36 00:02:02,850 --> 00:01:59,350 where I suppose my husband took me I 37 00:02:05,790 --> 00:02:02,860 can't remember no but it was such an 38 00:02:09,630 --> 00:02:05,800 extraordinary case and then eventually 39 00:02:11,170 --> 00:02:09,640 it Frost's the road and then went up 40 00:02:15,459 --> 00:02:11,180 over a building and then 41 00:02:18,789 --> 00:02:15,469 it's a beautiful well it's like a 42 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:18,799 telephone kiosk says with a good doctor 43 00:02:24,849 --> 00:02:22,010 who's TARDIS is it I know I know it was 44 00:02:26,920 --> 00:02:24,859 really the more but so many people said 45 00:02:29,559 --> 00:02:26,930 it and they didn't know each other 46 00:02:35,140 --> 00:02:29,569 hmm they thought they were the only ones 47 00:02:38,110 --> 00:02:35,150 reporting it right and we yesterday we 48 00:02:39,490 --> 00:02:38,120 met - Scott Scott Felton oh yeah and you 49 00:02:42,069 --> 00:02:39,500 you don't all work with him on the bed 50 00:02:43,809 --> 00:02:42,079 wooden case didn't you I did what a man 51 00:02:47,289 --> 00:02:43,819 named quite make remember working with 52 00:02:49,539 --> 00:02:47,299 it the exact yeah yeah on the bed wooden 53 00:02:51,399 --> 00:02:49,549 casing yeah yeah any memories of 54 00:02:55,059 --> 00:02:51,409 research in that you could share with us 55 00:02:59,890 --> 00:02:55,069 oh it's very firmly placed in my mind 56 00:03:01,949 --> 00:02:59,900 how this yeah I was standing like I 57 00:03:04,959 --> 00:03:01,959 don't know it was him 58 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:04,969 see I don't remember the names of the 59 00:03:11,050 --> 00:03:08,810 places but anyway I'm I was told that 60 00:03:14,649 --> 00:03:11,060 they villagers had seen it from that 61 00:03:16,770 --> 00:03:14,659 time too so I went to this place have 62 00:03:20,020 --> 00:03:16,780 you seen any sir and it's in yourself 63 00:03:22,629 --> 00:03:20,030 what UFOs on my own 64 00:03:26,319 --> 00:03:22,639 never all of it without the people oh 65 00:03:31,030 --> 00:03:26,329 yeah yeah that's I meant yeah what what 66 00:03:33,969 --> 00:03:31,040 seconds if you had well in Kent I saw 67 00:03:37,059 --> 00:03:33,979 them very very went to a period when we 68 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:37,069 saw them very frequently hmm and 69 00:03:43,059 --> 00:03:40,250 everybody used to get together and go 70 00:03:48,249 --> 00:03:43,069 and look for the lid such and we did see 71 00:03:50,949 --> 00:03:48,259 them but unfortunately I'm suffering 72 00:03:54,069 --> 00:03:50,959 from memory loss so they don't know and 73 00:03:57,369 --> 00:03:54,079 I could give you the books that you read 74 00:03:58,659 --> 00:03:57,379 but I I don't remember the G - well look 75 00:04:00,759 --> 00:03:58,669 when you went in Wales 76 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:00,769 didn't anything you seen anything 77 00:04:07,890 --> 00:04:02,930 anywhere in the skies whoever invades 78 00:04:11,770 --> 00:04:07,900 yeah I remember one of them said that it 79 00:04:14,020 --> 00:04:11,780 it appeared on a very narrow lane and it 80 00:04:17,289 --> 00:04:14,030 was hedge-hopping it resolved 81 00:04:20,110 --> 00:04:17,299 jumping like along the edge II from the 82 00:04:22,209 --> 00:04:20,120 just the top of the head just a little 83 00:04:23,930 --> 00:04:22,219 bit like that doctor can remember where 84 00:04:27,020 --> 00:04:23,940 that was 85 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:27,030 the way young dude then be again then be 86 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:29,010 that be seems to be real the hotspot do 87 00:04:33,710 --> 00:04:32,490 you seem to be yes a good time yeah well 88 00:04:36,530 --> 00:04:33,720 but you're not Miguel have you seen 89 00:04:39,530 --> 00:04:36,540 incident Abigail I have seen in our 90 00:04:41,570 --> 00:04:39,540 beginning I'll tell you about one that I 91 00:04:44,990 --> 00:04:41,580 remember quite well because it was on 92 00:04:47,780 --> 00:04:45,000 American Independence Day but I've been 93 00:04:53,030 --> 00:04:47,790 trying to think ever since whatever it 94 00:04:56,110 --> 00:04:53,040 is and not God but anyway I was walking 95 00:05:00,040 --> 00:04:56,120 it along I used to take a walk every day 96 00:05:03,650 --> 00:05:00,050 up as far as the castle gates yeah 97 00:05:06,500 --> 00:05:03,660 because I've got Offshore's righteous in 98 00:05:10,090 --> 00:05:06,510 the knees it's difficult for me to know 99 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:10,100 so anyway and I'd sat down on this bench 100 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:14,370 in front of the police station then the 101 00:05:23,500 --> 00:05:16,410 police station is quite close to border 102 00:05:26,900 --> 00:05:23,510 yeah and and then I saw this I know that 103 00:05:32,300 --> 00:05:26,910 first it was I think it was one of our 104 00:05:37,550 --> 00:05:32,310 helicopters and behind it was this cigar 105 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:37,560 shaped object just quite close to it you 106 00:05:44,450 --> 00:05:41,330 know behind it and there was only one 107 00:05:47,570 --> 00:05:44,460 doctor eight thousand the sky a bowl of 108 00:05:52,700 --> 00:05:47,580 dog treat cloud and that was more 109 00:05:55,460 --> 00:05:52,710 towards Tesco's over here yeah so so I 110 00:05:59,060 --> 00:05:55,470 sat on the bench and I under 111 00:06:01,010 --> 00:05:59,070 I don't know and I must be imagining it 112 00:06:04,310 --> 00:06:01,020 you know the thing following the 113 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:04,320 helicopter the headed of the helicopter 114 00:06:13,790 --> 00:06:11,370 no and this lady came along along the 115 00:06:16,190 --> 00:06:13,800 pavement that's a very white pigment 116 00:06:19,940 --> 00:06:16,200 cross pavement there in front of the 117 00:06:24,020 --> 00:06:19,950 houses and I said to excuse me I said 118 00:06:28,100 --> 00:06:24,030 but do you mind my asking you can can 119 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:28,110 you see anything in the sky and she she 120 00:06:35,780 --> 00:06:32,370 said looked up and she said yes she said 121 00:06:39,540 --> 00:06:35,790 it's a UFO and that don't walk 122 00:06:41,130 --> 00:06:39,550 that's why I remember it this is a 4th 123 00:06:44,090 --> 00:06:41,140 of July we got remember the year yeah 124 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:44,100 yeah you know I don't remember the earth 125 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:47,410 anyway then it went on and it went into 126 00:06:54,060 --> 00:06:50,890 this want out and I didn't see it again 127 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:54,070 I stuck there for quite a while to see 128 00:07:00,990 --> 00:06:56,050 if it would come out or anything but it 129 00:07:04,230 --> 00:07:01,000 didn't so that was the last time I saw 130 00:07:11,070 --> 00:07:04,240 one right was that a long time ago was 131 00:07:12,570 --> 00:07:11,080 it quite recent a few years not many I 132 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:12,580 can't remember 133 00:07:17,250 --> 00:07:16,330 yeah I probably written agenda under my 134 00:07:19,770 --> 00:07:17,260 Diaries 135 00:07:21,660 --> 00:07:19,780 what mm-hmm what we can find that out 136 00:07:23,670 --> 00:07:21,670 later maybe good nice to document that 137 00:07:28,190 --> 00:07:23,680 one what did it look like it was a cigar 138 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:28,200 shaker said yes just just a cigar she 139 00:07:35,370 --> 00:07:30,970 and you like to sign it mm-hmm were 140 00:07:45,660 --> 00:07:35,380 there any lights on it no there's a time 141 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:45,670 yeah that green color right so any any 142 00:07:48,990 --> 00:07:47,410 travels around Wales did the father 143 00:07:51,390 --> 00:07:49,000 father do you ever go down to South 144 00:07:55,020 --> 00:07:51,400 Wales to investigate okay oh yeah we 145 00:07:58,140 --> 00:07:55,030 went everywhere absolutely everywhere I 146 00:08:01,500 --> 00:07:58,150 had the most obliging husband God ever 147 00:08:03,810 --> 00:08:01,510 created because I don't know whether he 148 00:08:07,250 --> 00:08:03,820 was particularly interested but he took 149 00:08:11,220 --> 00:08:07,260 them for granted but God see I said I 150 00:08:16,950 --> 00:08:11,230 could see them that's it he accepted 151 00:08:20,310 --> 00:08:16,960 that I can't remember whether he saw it 152 00:08:24,180 --> 00:08:20,320 as well funny but I don't you know I 153 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:24,190 don't remember anything I can see it but 154 00:08:34,550 --> 00:08:28,210 I was oh always with him so so y'all 155 00:08:37,650 --> 00:08:34,560 didn't 83 any cases from Wales part from 156 00:08:39,450 --> 00:08:37,660 the Bedouin thing which you would think 157 00:08:42,750 --> 00:08:39,460 was the most important one all the most 158 00:08:43,860 --> 00:08:42,760 amazing one and I hate to be that the 159 00:08:46,470 --> 00:08:43,870 barren one 160 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:46,480 you know where everyone all the 161 00:08:52,560 --> 00:08:49,450 villagers saw us over there but it when 162 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:52,570 it left even the ones that hadn't been 163 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:56,170 out you know they were sawed told us 164 00:09:02,460 --> 00:08:58,210 about so somebody's actually saw it 165 00:09:04,079 --> 00:09:02,470 leaving yeah Scott is that it's of the 166 00:09:07,110 --> 00:09:04,089 opinion that it wasn't so much a crash 167 00:09:11,730 --> 00:09:07,120 as a as most popularly known as a 168 00:09:13,590 --> 00:09:11,740 landing it was I think uh I think well 169 00:09:17,250 --> 00:09:13,600 did you think the do you think the 170 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:17,260 military knew it was coming there 171 00:09:23,370 --> 00:09:20,410 beforehand or how'd you think about that 172 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:23,380 I don't know don't hear much about that 173 00:09:30,300 --> 00:09:27,210 one do you were it actually left because 174 00:09:32,460 --> 00:09:30,310 Scott was saying to us that the rumor 175 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:32,470 was it crushed and the military took it 176 00:09:40,710 --> 00:09:36,610 away but it seems a very likely scenario 177 00:09:43,500 --> 00:09:40,720 it took off it left and as you say 178 00:09:48,269 --> 00:09:43,510 people saw it oh yeah she's got some 179 00:09:51,079 --> 00:09:48,279 very good witness etcetera photo UFOs he 180 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:51,089 remembers details just like that I 181 00:09:58,800 --> 00:09:53,890 wouldn't mind being having his startled 182 00:10:03,750 --> 00:09:58,810 mind he comes here and he talks about 183 00:10:07,380 --> 00:10:03,760 nothing else but UFOs I can imagine that 184 00:10:09,570 --> 00:10:07,390 yeah you believe that it's not so much 185 00:10:12,090 --> 00:10:09,580 outer space but there in the solar 186 00:10:14,490 --> 00:10:12,100 system I think so I think they only come 187 00:10:15,690 --> 00:10:14,500 from our so I've always said that what 188 00:10:18,630 --> 00:10:15,700 do you think that isn't because I think 189 00:10:22,740 --> 00:10:18,640 the distances are just too fake judging 190 00:10:25,560 --> 00:10:22,750 by our human bodies I think that just 191 00:10:29,190 --> 00:10:25,570 too great for anything to be on dr. Koh 192 00:10:32,579 --> 00:10:29,200 I mean those are enormous distances 193 00:10:34,190 --> 00:10:32,589 billions of lives on things in our own 194 00:10:37,350 --> 00:10:34,200 solar system 195 00:10:41,730 --> 00:10:37,360 Pluto and all the ones it's right that 196 00:10:46,380 --> 00:10:41,740 we just about see no I don't think they 197 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:46,390 come from and beyond that they may not 198 00:10:53,170 --> 00:10:48,970 even be human beings they might be quite 199 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:53,180 different you can't tell can you 200 00:10:58,930 --> 00:10:56,330 know what kinds of crafted you talk 201 00:11:00,820 --> 00:10:58,940 about distances have you ever heard 202 00:11:03,490 --> 00:11:00,830 anyone like have you ever seen any 203 00:11:06,450 --> 00:11:03,500 research that maybe they can travel 204 00:11:09,430 --> 00:11:06,460 faster than light or they can somehow 205 00:11:11,350 --> 00:11:09,440 open up wormholes or travel through 206 00:11:14,260 --> 00:11:11,360 dimensions I don't think of all that 207 00:11:17,140 --> 00:11:14,270 because I think to myself how what do I 208 00:11:21,010 --> 00:11:17,150 know about it and just think of the 209 00:11:23,890 --> 00:11:21,020 things that you feasible with you so I 210 00:11:26,140 --> 00:11:23,900 never think I meant intend to do that I 211 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:26,150 think they they like to know all that 212 00:11:32,050 --> 00:11:29,450 I'm not saying they shouldn't but I but 213 00:11:34,990 --> 00:11:32,060 I don't do it because it I wouldn't be 214 00:11:36,850 --> 00:11:35,000 any good at church anyway that's the 215 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:36,860 military ever spoken to you about 216 00:11:51,490 --> 00:11:47,810 anything they know no I'm more active in 217 00:11:55,050 --> 00:11:51,500 this in Kent than I ever been up here 218 00:12:01,300 --> 00:11:57,790 they're Bexhill home city was not mm-hmm 219 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:01,310 is it back Salem say I'm lived in beg 220 00:12:06,940 --> 00:12:05,050 Bexleyheath Bexleyheath open note note 221 00:12:09,820 --> 00:12:06,950 gent yeah 222 00:12:12,550 --> 00:12:09,830 oh there was a quite famous psyched in 223 00:12:18,330 --> 00:12:12,560 that wasn't that yeah oh crap came down 224 00:12:20,950 --> 00:12:18,340 the street yet uh oh I remember going in 225 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:20,960 investigating that case really very 226 00:12:28,510 --> 00:12:25,610 thoroughly not just by myself I did it 227 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:28,520 with somebody else as well but I can't 228 00:12:32,650 --> 00:12:29,810 remember her name